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They're right on our heels as usual department: [livejournal.com profile] psycholibrarian and [livejournal.com profile] linaerys, thought you might be amused by the writeup in this month's Lucky (aka guilty pleasure) magazine on the wonders of shopping on 74th Street in Jackson Heights.

We were flipping past *28 Days Later* on tv last night, and M. pointed out Christopher Eccleston to me. I'm impressed; I recall the character quite vividly (and creepily) from when we saw the film. Just hadn't made the connection.

Yesterday, we had our instructors' meeting for the classics-through-Dante class I teach in the fall and we've made some positive changes in the syllabus. We're adding Ovid, the Bible (Genesis, Exodus and a gospel or two), and probably some of Aristotle's Politics and Physics (both of which play into the second semester course); I'm dumping tired old Oedipus (which is so key for those who didn't get it in high school, but such a rerun for the half of them that did) for Medea and possibly Lysistrata. I still don't have to teach Augustine, and the best bits (Odyssey, Inferno) are intact, as well as Virgil (eh). And, amusingly, "O Brother Where Art Thou?", which I showed last year, seems to have become enshrined in the syllabus.

Ever-so-slightly sulky about the movie meme that's been going around, or rather about this new LJ trend towards "passing the baton." I fully recognize I could go ahead and tell you all what my five favorite movies are without being asked, and nobody would mind one bit. So this is not a request for someone to ask me; more a "not loving this trend" observation. There's always been a sort of randomness and cheerful anarchy about these things that picking people undermines a bit.

Reading:

In Ruins by Christopher Woodward. A quiet, nicely-written meditation on a subject that's always fascinated me, from the 18th-19th c. reaction to the ruins of ancient Rome to the preservation vs. restoration of WWII bombing sites. Just a pleasurable little book of the sort that it's nice to see still published once in awhile.

Murder of Angels by Caitlin Kiernan. I find her prose *too* compelling -- I read the thing altogether too quickly. I'm not a horror fan ordinarily, but I really enjoy Kiernan's writing and characters. This was a sequel to Silk, a book where certain characters and situations resonated for me deeply (particularly Daria's fascination/entanglement with a heroin-addicted musician which reminded me strongly of someone in my past). Here, the characters are dealing with the aftermath, a decade later. It wasn't quite as strong, but still compelling -- the damage that had been done, and the various survivors' ways of coping with it, felt very real, which considering the un-realist nature of what they'd been through, shows a writer who can really handle her characters.

Kushiel's Dart by Jacqueline Carey. I'd seen this mentioned all over my f-list, so I thought I'd try it.
The world she sets up is quite interesting, but the main character was too into herself for my taste, and considering the subject matter I didn't find it particularly erotic. Oh well.

Date: 2005-05-11 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] linaerys.livejournal.com
Re: Kushiel's Dart. The main character is too self-centered I think, but I also think it gets much much better after she grows up. Not sure where you're up to, but the book does kind of take fire 250 pages in or so.

Date: 2005-05-11 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chelseagirl.livejournal.com
I finished it. I don't feel like it was a waste of time or anything, but I just didn't love it.

Date: 2005-05-11 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leela-cat.livejournal.com
I felt uncomfortable about that "passing the baton" thing as well. Not just because it's hard to pick 5 people, but also because there's an imposition on those 5 people.

Of course, in true lemming fashion, I did it anyway.

None of which means that I'm not babbling around this early in the morning, only vaguely coherent, nor that I'm not interested in your 5 movies.

Date: 2005-05-11 02:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chelseagirl.livejournal.com
Dunno, it just seems to undermine the spirit of kind of randomness that I enjoy so much on LJ -- where you never know who's going to get involved in what conversation or where someone or something is just going to pop up.

Date: 2005-05-11 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ajinamoto.livejournal.com
Doesn't naming people to complete the meme sort of defeating the purpose of a meme, maybe the definition?

I feel kind of left out, but I always do.

Date: 2005-05-11 02:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chelseagirl.livejournal.com
Good point. I'm not sure what the definition of a meme is, but I kinda thought the watching them spread randomly was a part of it.

passing the baton

Date: 2005-05-11 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] studiesinlight.livejournal.com
I also disliked the "passing the baton" meme mutation. Thank you for saying so!

When I originally wrote my response to the movie meme, I entered a mini diatribe about chain letters and chain letter-like manifestations, but then I wimped out and retreated. I didn't want to seem to imply that the person handing it on to me shouldn't have done so, or that I wasn't a good sport. So I simply left it at not naming more people, and not really explaining why. And thus do minor evils continue . . .

Re: passing the baton

Date: 2005-05-11 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chelseagirl.livejournal.com
I wonder where it got started. Probably someone genuinely wanting to know what a particular person thought, or maybe someone not wanting their meme to get lost in the crush of things?

Speaking of chain letters, I got one from a friend of ours in the UK. I said to M., "Your friend K. sent me a chain letter." Him: "Don't you mean our friend K.?" Me: "When she's sending me a chain letter, she's *your* friend."

Date: 2005-05-11 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] insidian.livejournal.com
We're adding Ovid, the Bible (Genesis, Exodus and a gospel or two),

1. I want to take this class.

2. Mind if I kibitz on the Bible book selection? James is a good way to go with the New Testament. You get an excellent, concise summary of pretty much the whole Bible, an overview of Jesus's life, and a little bit of the Apostles' fuckuppery post-Jesus philosophies. And did I mention it was clear and concise? As opposed to the random anecdote style of the Gospels? 'Cause that's huge.

Date: 2005-05-11 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chelseagirl.livejournal.com
Thanks for the idea. Daniel, the guy who did the Bible in his section last year, basically taught what he taught in Columbia's Literature Humanities course. I don't think John *and* Matthew is necessary, myself. So I'll have a look at James.

You might be interested in David Denby's book about the great books where he went back to Columbia and took Lit Hum and Contemporary Civilization. Of course, he was a grown up film critic, and he took sections with some of the Grand Old Men rather than the typical overstretched grad students. I haven't read it myself (too much like work).

D'OH!

Date: 2005-05-11 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] insidian.livejournal.com
HEBREWS! I MEANT HEBREWS, AND NOT JAMES!

I'm sorry. You read 'em through right quick, and they all mash up together, eh? James is actually a letter, not a book. *is doofus*

Re: D'OH!

Date: 2005-05-11 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chelseagirl.livejournal.com
Hebrews is an epistle, too -- I think only the Gospels, Acts, and Revelations aren't, in the NT. And no worries -- you have until September to make suggestions. ;-) Hmmm, I could assign your Bible spam as extra reading.

Date: 2005-05-11 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cissa.livejournal.com
I did end up reading the whole Kushiel's series, but agree with your about the heroine- she annoyed me. A lot. Self-involved little twerp, who in any sort of real world would be too busy navel-gazing to do anything much at all.

And while the world was intriguing- which is why I read all 3- I don't think in the end that it was very well-thought-out.

I also got very, very tired of some of the word misuses: "mayhap" does not equal "maybe," nor "somewhat" "something". And I do not find it poetic, as seemed to be the goal, just increasingly annoying.

Date: 2005-05-11 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chelseagirl.livejournal.com
I think you've convinced me not to read the sequels. ;-)

Date: 2005-05-11 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] psycholibrarian.livejournal.com
Thanks for the heads up! [livejournal.com profile] sbgrl gets that magazine, too, so I shall have to check out this article asap.

Been meaning to read more Caitlin Kiernan. I've always loved her work in comics, but I didn't like Silk all that much. It had some good ideas, as you've so eloquently mentioned - and I LOVED the Jenny Dare/Roanoke Island thing - but for some reason the book just didn't do it for me. Maybe I should give it another go.

Date: 2005-05-11 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sbgrl.livejournal.com
Yeah, I saw it sitting in my mailbox on my way to work today. Whenever you want it, you know where it is.

Date: 2005-05-11 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chelseagirl.livejournal.com
It's the inside last page -- nothing amazing but it made me laugh to see it.

Or try another one? Maybe she's just not your flavor -- but the Daria plot, as I said, hit home with a past experience of mine.

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